that saved money and the environment. >> and not only that, tired of hearing that argument. everybody, abc constantly, eat a leaner beef, worry about your health. so when we tried to eat it did take that away as well. john: not using it wastes 5,000 cows a day. >> they said the term pink slime 178 times either on their broadcast or with jim antelope. john: then they started taking it back. >> they started out. this is classic. they said, a term commonly used. then, of course, what you find is it is not. "washington post," new york times, one or two times at most that they had ever used it prior to that. john: what is the agenda? >> well, always the activists who are pushing against the food in general. what happened was this comes from a movie. a lot of the bad things in society come from movies. shooting to put out by participant media so there were so proud of this process just amazing to look at. thee let these people and the videotape. you don't dare let anybody videotape anything because they demonized. john: the company closed three out of four plants, laid-off workers